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January 30, 2007

HMS Beagle replica project

The year 2009 will be the 200 anniversary of the birth of Charles Darwin. These people are building a working replica of the HMS Beagle, the ship Darwin sailed on when he made his observations that eventually lead to him developing the theory of evolution by natural selection. The replica Beagle will recreate that voyage around the world.

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Wally, thanks for the write up and the digg. The replica will ssail the world, but it'll also be visiting America and opening the boat to all those who've been doing so much to keep evolution in the classrooms.

Posted by: Peter McGrath | Feb 2, 2007 6:24:30 AM

Hi, Peter! Based on the map of the Beagle's 1831-1836 voyage, North America isn't on the itinerary, so I'm glad to hear that the ship will be making a detour at some point to visit a country where the vast majority of the population doesn't accept the Theory of Evolution. *sigh* Alas, Illinois is nowhere near the east or west coast, so unless the Beagle is going to sail over to Lake Michigan or up the Mississippi, I'll have to plan on a road trip at some point.

I didn't notice a schedule on your web site yet, so be sure to let us know when you've got some dates laid out!

Posted by: Wally Hartshorn | Feb 9, 2007 9:06:58 PM

[b]God IS a spirit![/b] How can God, a spirit, be proved materially? You can only believe or disbelieve. Your belief or disbelief doesn't affect God or His (???Her? It? Who can know God's sex? Jesus? Can we be sure Jesus used the words He or Father. I believe Creator is a better word as it is neutral as far as sex is concerned) existence.


Think of something that made you unhappy. Next, think of something that made you happy. Your brain has switched from an unhappy thought to a happy thought. But who is instructing your brain to make the switch? That is you, a spirit that refers to itself as [b]I[/b] or [b]me[/b], and not by the name your parents gave to you for the purpose of identifying your body. Every person on earth, regardless of any classification, refers to him/herself by the same [b]I[/b] or [b]me[/b], for each of us, as a spirit, is a part of the Great Universal Spirit called by various names (God, Allah, Brahma, but not Yahweh which is a man-made God, belief in whom all sorts of evil has been visited on human beings, including those who believe in this man-made God. The story of the creation, according to anthropologists, is similar to the Sumerian story of the same. Abraham came out of Ur of the Chaldees and brought this concept of God with him. See Genesis 12: 11-19 and, especially, Genesis 20: 2-18). But the G.U.S. is more than the sum of the individual spirits or how could it imbue us with our abilities (none of us gave ourselves our innate abilities which were imbued in us for performing the tasks for which we took on material animal bodies) or direct us in our lives? The tasks for which we materialized can be determined in three steps :

1. First, consider what [b]abilities[/b] you have (which you didn't give yourself, regardless of how 'smart' you consider yourself).
2. Consider what [b]interests[/b] you have into which your abilities can be best utilized (and you were led to those abilities unaware).
3. Consider what [b]needs[/b] others have for your abilities and interests.

Then you may give unto them and be given unto in return. The first rule in marketing is "Give them what they want!" (See Matthew 7:12 and Luke 6:31. Also, Matthew 7: 7-11)

If the body is still extant when dead, although in various states of decomposition as it returns to the earth which maintained it in life, can the spirit which made it alive be non-existent because it can no longer be accessed by the senses of other living persons? Is the body (which includes the brain, of course), a tool, of greater import than the spirit, the user?

On God and punishment :

John 1: 1-3 states "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made."

Now, whether God was the Word, or the Father, the Son or the Holy Ghost (or all) before God made anything, God had to be alone. For if there was any thing or anyone besides God, God, as the Creator, would have made it or them. Therefore, before any act of creation, God had to be alone. Therefore, as there was nothing and no one but God, the only materials God could have made anything would have to be God Himself (Herself, Itself???). Therefore, if God made everything and everyone out of Himself, by Himself (no one to help), for whatever reason(s) God had, from whence comes the idea of punishment? If God punished anyone, He would be punishing Himself! Is God then a masochist? Or a sadist? If you were God wou[b][/b]ld you punish yourself? How then would you prefer to be addressed in my prayers? As "Oh, my God....the idiot!" ? We punish ourselves and each other through ignorance of who we are, spirits in material animal bodies! There is [b]no[/b] punishment! Only experiences that are personally desirable or undesirable. And it's not the experience that matters but how we [b]choose[/b] to react to the experience.

I believe the teachings of Jesus in the New Testament were made to conform to the Old Testament as Christ's teachings weren't about intimidation which, considering that the slaves outnumbered the masters and their soldiers, were necessary. Christ's teachings were not conducive to getting slaves to obey masters as his commandments were that we 'love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your might and with all your mind', and ''love your neighbour as yourself'.(see Matthew 22: 35-40). The Jews couldn't have made the New Testament to conform with the Old. Also, Arthur Koestler in his book, "The Thirteenth Tribe", claimed that the Khazars adopted Judaism and 'formed the cradle of Western Jewry'. The Khazars weren't anywhere near the crucifixion, so, how could they be Christ-killers? The disciples of Christ and the early Christians were Jews too. Were they Christ-killers?

I am [b]not[/b] a Creationist. I believe in evolution but insist that evolution does [b]not[/b] disprove God! Evolutionists are concerned with the material! [b]God IS a spirit![/b]

Posted by: Lloyd Dettering | Mar 3, 2008 12:28:04 PM

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